tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9202849355254208824.post6831665313745531432..comments2024-03-10T22:13:11.974-04:00Comments on Marvel Comics of the 1980s: 1980 - 1989: The Failtastic Four part II: The Fairly Foul Final Foursome*Jason Shayerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12326506125878276176noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9202849355254208824.post-6184671566131416972018-05-10T02:21:05.252-04:002018-05-10T02:21:05.252-04:00Referring to the comment about Johnny's ogling...Referring to the comment about Johnny's ogling the masked Sue, a theory promulgated by Chris Tolworthy, apparently on fairly solid grounds, contends that Johnny was secretly Sue's SON rather than brother. Google "Fantastic Four Great American Novel" to see Tolworthy's site & hypotheses. William T. Shermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14930487594262902966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9202849355254208824.post-3652993492664100202018-05-10T02:17:11.839-04:002018-05-10T02:17:11.839-04:00Interjecting super-late to remind anyone who might...Interjecting super-late to remind anyone who might see this that A) Byrne left Marvel not because of anything Jim did but because he wanted to write/draw Superman, full stop, and B) monetary incentives Jim fought to institute at Marvel made Byrne a ton of money. A TON of money. Oh, also, C) it was Byrne's idea to depict the dark Phoenix blowing up that sun, so Byrne created the problem this blogger complained of, and degraded the value of Jean Grey as a heroic intellectual property. Jim had the right idea, and was acting within his capacity as steward of these intellectual properties. William T. Shermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14930487594262902966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9202849355254208824.post-9510296863501101852017-06-20T01:22:55.926-04:002017-06-20T01:22:55.926-04:00John Byrne's Fantastic Four run is what sucked...John Byrne's Fantastic Four run is what sucked me in to the world of Marvel comics and I will always love it for that, but I don't disagree with anything you wrote in these two articles, Jef. The Malice story is especially awkward not just for the slap or the hideous costume but also Johnny admiring his sister's figure ("Shapeless she ain't"). Sure, he doesn't yet know it's Sue, but that didn't make it any less cringeworthy.Stillpointhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14993637729448987616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9202849355254208824.post-17470612330350881052015-09-05T11:00:40.785-04:002015-09-05T11:00:40.785-04:00Shooter had Yellow Jacket become a chauvinistic do...Shooter had Yellow Jacket become a chauvinistic douche and backhand slapped Jan, knocked her to the floor, talked down to her and his manhood was hurt when Jan save him. Shooter has a history of heroes slapping their teammates, Cosmic Boy slapped Light Lass. The blog already said it was reverse psychology and a gamble as Cesar said, but the blog turned into buzz word like a NY Post article: REED SLAPPED SUE. Thor slapped Sif during Simonson run... is that going to become, Simonson was a misogynist? The Malice part of this blog was trying to hard not to get it when you already got it.Samuelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10199468549621460294noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9202849355254208824.post-12729308320019072752015-08-18T18:49:12.228-04:002015-08-18T18:49:12.228-04:00I actually liked the Malice story. I think Reed kn...I actually liked the Malice story. I think Reed knows Sue really is the strongest of the 4, and that there is no way to beat her without actually hurting her (physically).<br /><br />I think this gamble also works because it takes her by surprise. She, as Malice, also realizes she is the most powerful member, so she would never expect her targets to say these things to her. If she had been given a moment to stop, think and then react, she would have simply killed the team right there.<br /><br />Also, I know first hand that these types of open hand hits to the face have little physical power, BUT what they lack in strength they more than compensate for their ability to anger the receiving party. One of those and you will not stop to think if the hit actually hurt (most likely, it didn't), but you will surely be almost blinded with rage after someone hits you like this. Even worse if it is someone whom you would not expect to do it.<br /><br />I guess when I saw this I thought more about the way people in television hit others' faces when they get hysterical, and less about the type of hit Hank Pym threw at Janet: stronger, with real anger and trying to get her out of the way.<br /><br />When seen as similar to the "stop being hysterical" hits, where the purpose is presented as to help the person and stop a bad situation from getting worse, it is not that bad.Icecypherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17999359003183615788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9202849355254208824.post-35714295570230767842015-08-10T11:15:25.438-04:002015-08-10T11:15:25.438-04:00David, what I was trying to point out is that I lo...David, what I was trying to point out is that I loved the idea of Kristoff as Doom while the real (allegedly) Doctor was still around. It would have made for a wonderful story arc, but both Byrne and Englehart were unable to carry out their ideas before they "left". Clarmindcontrolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14584770229321250898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9202849355254208824.post-10167134082331895532015-08-10T09:01:23.681-04:002015-08-10T09:01:23.681-04:00I loved that Doom two-parter with Kristoff. I love...I loved that Doom two-parter with Kristoff. I loved the retelling of the origin, Byrne-style, I loved how the group use teamwork and their powers to survive space, and enjoyed the idea that young Doom arrogantly shut off the programming before it got to the part about force fields. And it was yet another Byrne-induced status quo trauma at the end, with the Baxter Building destroyed (you knew when tragedy hit the FF 'cause Byrne always ended those stories with a panel with a big black border around it, see also "Sue loses baby").<br /><br />But following the paramters of "would make a bad movie" then okay, this story might qualify. Certainly wouldn't hold a candle to "sleazy magazine photographs She-Hulk: the Movie."<br /><br />-david p.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com